Talk:Thousand Sunny/@comment-29588340-20160906214949/@comment-10336-20160927031451

Because, as Jason noted, if the regualr damage bypasses defense, it applies in a normal way. Practically all enemies have some defence. Even grunts on early islands have 10-100 def, it is just you don't notice it - when you are dealing 5-6 digits of damage, -few hundreds is not an issue. So TS and many other regular damage specials can kill some high def characters, but it depends on the numbers. Some characters like Hime of Frankies have such a high def that you either need to score a lot of perfects with a high end 3 or 3+ captain to be able to do anything, which is why DEF lowering specials are recommended instead. For Himes, TS is useful only for clearing regular stages, or Hime stages AFTER def reducer has been applied. But sure, you can use it vs regular turtles, but if you are killing the Elder on turn 15, you are being much slower then what you could achieve with other strategies (3x+ damage captains of the right color or skill up on Fullbodies can consistently take care of that stage in 5-7 turns).